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Former Obama DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson opened up about the border crisis in an interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace on Sunday. Wallace pressed Johnson on the Obama administration’s handling of the immigration crisis in 2014, to which Johnson replied, “Without a doubt the images, and the reality, from 2014, just like 2018, are not pretty…” Johnson continued, “We expanded family detention...I freely admit it was controversial. We believed it was necessary at the time.”

As of late, the Trump administration has come under fire for both family detention and family separation. Johnson admitted during the interview that both policies were in effect in 2014 as well.

On Monday’s “The News and Why It Matters,” Glenn Beck, Sara Gonzales, Pat Gray, and Stu Burgiere discuss Jeh Johnson and this surprisingly honest interview. Glenn and the others all thought the interview was important during a time of such strong controversy. “That’s a refreshing conversation...You can talk to somebody like that,” Glenn argued.

Stu brought up the fact that while the interview was good, it is a little hard to swallow because Johnson has nothing to lose now. He mentioned the hypocrisy of the fact that Jeh Johnson was praised during his run as DHS secretary while Kirstjen Nielsen has been terrorized. “What I thought was interesting, though, is we have Kirstjen Nielsen, and she’s getting interrupted at Mexican restaurants...they were playing loud crying on speakers outside her home to try to keep her awake,” Stu said. The hypocrisy is maddening.

Watch the clip above for the full discussion.

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