Transgender reporter Zoey Tur clashed with conservative commentator Ben Shapiro on Thursday night during an HLN panel about Caitlyn Jenner, formerly known as Bruce Jenner, with Tur threatening that Shapiro would "go home in an ambulance" if he didn't stop disrespecting her.
The fireworks began after Shapiro was asked by host Dr. Drew Pinsky whether he believes Jenner deserved to win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPYs, to which he responded that he did not.
"What exactly is the battle — I mean self definition is what you do. My baby's doing it at 18 months old," Shapiro responded, after Pinsky said that Jenner is fighting a "new battle" after coming out as transgender. "I wasn't aware that you get a medal for it."
Tur conceded that Jenner probably didn't deserve the award, but said that "being transgender is about the bravest thing you can do." Shapiro, though, went on to push back against the perceived normalization of the transgender issue.
"Why are we mainstreaming delusion?" he asked, proceeding to push back against another panelist who interjected to say that Shapiro was being insensitive. "Facts don't care about your feelings. It turns out that every chromosome, every cell in Caitlyn Jenner's body is male with the exception of some of his sperm cells. ... what he feels on the outside is irrelevant to his biological status."
Watch part one of the debate below:
Tur, who clearly didn't appreciate Shapiro's comments, said that he doesn't know what he's talking about and that he isn't educated on genetics. But it was one line that Shapiro uttered that appeared to really rile Tur.
"What are your genetics, sir?" he asked, with Tur putting her hand on his shoulder and responding, "You cut that out now, or you'll go home in an ambulance."
The two weren't done there, with Tur calling Shapiro a "little man" and with Shapiro saying that he feels "terrible" for her. The conservative commentator also went on to discuss how mental illness has impacted his own family.
Here's part two:
"My grandfather was bipolar ... and he thought that the radio was talking to him. They put him in a mental hospital," Shapiro said. "They did not tell him that the radio was talking to him to allow him to live a better life. They put him into a mental hospital and gave him lithium to allow him to live a better life."