Rudy Giuliani believes President Donald Trump probably has the power to pardon himself.
“He’s not, but he probably does. He [has] no intention of pardoning of himself. Doesn’t say he can’t,” Giuliani told ABC host George Stephanopoulos Sunday on “This Week.”
Giuliani added that it is a “a really interesting constitutional argument.”
The former New York City mayor is Trump’s lead attorney in the ongoing Russia investigation. Part of the investigation includes whether Trump tried to obstruct justice in the federal probe of Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
What about the political ramifications?
Giuliani continued: “I think the political ramifications of that would be tough. Pardoning other people is one thing. Pardoning yourself is another. Other presidents have pardoned people in circumstances like this, both in their administration and sometimes the next president, even of a different party, will come along and pardon.”
Giuliani’s comments follow the publication of 20-page letter from Trump’s legal team to special counsel Robert Mueller, who is leading the federal Russia investigation. The New York Times published the Jan. 29 letter this weekend.
The letter states that Trump cannot be indicted, subpoenaed or found guilty of obstruction of justice because he is the “chief law enforcement officer.”
Giuliani was not part of Trump’s legal team when the letter was written, he said he stands by most of it.
Regarding Trump being subpoenaed and Mueller writing a final report on his investigation, Giuliani said:
We’ll say, "Hey, you’ve got everything you need." You’ve got everything you need. What do you need us for? They have to make a decision without him. So, c’mon, man up and make a decision.
As far as meeting face-to-face with investigators, there would have to be “a high bar in terms of convincing us that they’re fair,” Giuliani said.