Donald Rumsfeld has held various positions in multiple presidential administrations. He served as counselor to Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford's chief of staff, and served as the defense secretary under Ford and George W. Bush.
And on Thursday, it took Rumsfeld just two words to shut down "The View" co-host Joy Behar during an appearance on the liberal ABC show.
During a discussion about the 2016 election, Rumsfeld noted that President Donald Trump was able to find victory in a "good group" of Republican candidates, which included conservative superstars like Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Then Rumsfeld turned toward Trump's general election victory over Hillary Clinton.
"And then he ran against the Democrat, a seasoned individual, well-known Hillary Clinton — and he won," Rumsfeld said matter-of-factly.
But Behar's liberal instincts wouldn't let Rumsfeld off easy with his assertion that Trump easily defeated Clinton.
"Well, [Trump] lost by more than three million votes in the popular vote," Behar interjected, noting that Trump only won the electoral vote.
"What counts?" Rumsfeld shot back.
"Well the electoral vote counts—" Behar replied.
"I thought so!" Rumsfeld said. "I thought so."
Indeed, Clinton defeated Trump in the popular vote last year by nearly 3 million votes. But Trump won the Electoral College by 74 votes, 306 to 232. A candidate only needs 270 to win the White House.
Behar and her co-hosts then turned the conversation to a topic that liberals have berated since Trump defeated Clinton in last year's presidential contest: allegations that Trump's campaign colluded with Russian operatives.
Behar and company tried to compare the allegations — which are completely unfounded with concrete evidence — to Nixon's Watergate scandal, but Rumseld dismissed the comparisons.
Watch the segment below: