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Here's What Happened When Angry C-SPAN Callers Phoned in During a Live Segment With a Liberal Reverend


"He really shouldn't have the reverend before his name, unfortunately."

When the Rev. Barry Lynn appeared on C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" on Monday to discuss his book, "God and Government," a few callers phoned in to confront the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State about his stance on faith in America.

Lynn, who is known for riling some conservatives by waging battles against perceived violations of the separation of church and state, directly responded to the the callers' grievances against him.

"Reality is Christianity. Christianity is reality. Jesus Christ is spirit of life. Satan is spirit of death," proclaimed Jerry from Mississippi. "It's a test. We're in the test. We all are."

Jerry went on to say that human beings always try to "change history," but that they will not succeed, as God is a never-changing truth.

"My question is: why do we keep speaking about religion when religion is Bible, spirit of life is Jesus Christ, reality is Christianity?" he asked.

To that, Lynn responded that it's essential for people to recognize that, though they may believe Christianity to be truth, there are millions of others who live in America and don't accept Biblical doctrine — individuals that he said deserve equal rights and considerations.

"I think we have to recognize that we are not alone as Christians in this country — that we have these 2,000 religions and 25 million atheists and freethinkers," Lynn responded. "They're all first class citizens ... if you're a person in this country, you deserve to be treated just as well as anyone including 'Jesus Christ is my savior' believers."

Another caller from Tennessee named Will phoned in with an even tougher message for Lynn, claiming that he believes the activist is doing a disservice to the Christian faith.

"He's doing a lot of injustice and he really shouldn't have the reverend before his name, unfortunately," Will said. "You've got to realize something — this is holy. What you're talking about is holy. God is holy. Everything about the word and about his plan of salvation is holy."

The caller went on to accuse Lynn of speaking "profanities against the holiness of God."

"If you are a Christian as you say, you should have the holy spirit beating you to death right now," Will continued. "'Cause the holy spirit is in everyone who declares themself a Christian and the son of God."

Lynn responded by claiming that he believes that Christians aren't the ones struggling to exercise their faith in this country and that it is minority groups, including nonbelievers, that face discrimination.

He then launched into an impromptu attack on Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert, pointing to a clash that Lynn and Gohmert had before a congressional committee in June 2014 during which Gohmert repeatedly asked him to clarify his Christian beliefs.

“I’m curious, in your Christian beliefs, do you believe in sharing the good news that will keep people from going to hell, consistent with the Christian belief?” Gohmert asked Lynn at the time."So, you don’t believe somebody would go to hell if they do not believe Jesus is the way, the truth, the life?"

Watch that clash below:

Lynn told the C-SPAN caller that he felt that this attack from Gohmert was unwarranted and not "appropriate."

"I think Congressmen Gohmert is kind of a walking, talking example of why we need the separation of church and state in this country," he said.

(H/T: Raw Story)

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