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Open Letter: Beck Responds to Criticism from Muse Band Leader Matthew Bellamy

Oct. 2, 2012 8:12am

Glenn Beck is the CEO & Founder of Mercury Radio Arts. Beck is one of America's leading radio and television personalities, and author of #1 New York Times […]

Glenn Beck is the CEO & Founder of Mercury Radio Arts. Beck is one of America's leading radio and television personalities, and author of #1 New York Times bestsellers in both fiction and non-fiction. The Glenn Beck Program is syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks and is the third highest-rated national radio talk show among adults ages 25 to 54. Glenn is married with four kids.

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Editor’s note: On Friday, Muse front man Matthew Bellamy gave an interview to The Observer where he criticized conservative politicians in America for requesting to play their hit song “Uprising.” Beck has been a vocal fan of the band, but when Bellamy was asked about his conservative following in America he called it “weird” and claimed that right-wing libertarians were hijacking his songs and the “conspiracy theory subculture” to take down Obama.

Dear Matthew,

I read your comments in the Guardian via Rolling Stone last week and feel like with a little work we could better understand each other.

As uncomfortable as it might be for you, I will still play your songs loudly. To me your songs are anthems that beg for choruses of unity and pose the fundamental question facing the world today – can man rule himself?

In the Venn Diagram of American politics, where the circles of crimson and blue overlap, there’s a place where you and I meet. It’s a place where guys who cling to their religion, rights, and guns, connect with godless, clinched-fist-tattoo, guys.

You seem to have a pretty good grasp of comparative U.S. and European politics, but maybe there’s a pattern that you’re underestimating. Throughout history, leaders have used music to lull young people into a sense of security and euphoria. They’ve used artists to create the illusion that they can run a country that keeps all the good and wipes out all the bad. Think Zurich 1916. Think artists getting behind guys like Lenin and Trotsky. Think of pop culture’s role in the Arab Spring. The youth rises up, power structures crumble, and worse leaders are inserted.

America, on the other hand, does not rely on leaders — we rely on the individual. Our country was built on the principles of mercy, justice, and charity — we ultimately believe that man left alone is good. That is a primary reason I disagree with Chomsky and others that you’ve touted.

American Libertarians understand that smaller government gives people freedom — the freedom to earn or lose, eat or starve, own or sell. The potential for wild success and happiness is tempered by an equal chance of failure. And it is all up to the individual to take control of their destiny.

This has been a debate since the founding of America, one that has often gotten confused. Even during the revolution — a period filled with the greatest minds to ever discuss the idea of freedom — there were the divisions that continue today. Robespierre or George Washington. OWS or the TEA Party.

Thomas Paine didn’t see the difference at first either — sometimes the difference is too subtle.

Yet the question is an easy one: Do you believe man can rule himself? Or does he need someone ruling over him to force him to be good and charitable?

That is the fundamental divide and everything else follows. Even though faith was important to our American patriots none of them forced Paine to believe. He chose his course and in the end is remembered as a critical patriot in establishing man’s first real freedom.

They understood that we don’t all have to be in the same boat. But rather, focused on the star chart: Are you headed toward freedom or despotism?

The power that American Libertarians like me want to pull down is power that limits the individuals right to roam and create.

Matthew, I realize that converts are pretty hard to come by when the stakes are so high and the spotlight so bright, but I thank you for singing words that resonate with man in his struggle to be free.

I wish I could leave well enough alone and just be quiet…

…but I’ve had recurring nightmares that I was loved for who I am and missed the opportunity to be a better man.

Good luck on the new record.

Glenn

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beth.purdy
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:00am
I’ve really been wondering how Glenn felt about Muse’s music, because I agree with him that their songs could, and should, inspire us to support our liberties. “Take a Bow” in particular comes to mind whenever I contemplate the hot mess that is Obama and his crew. I’m disappointed, but not surprised, that Bellamy (a Brit and an entertainer) wouldn’t have a clue about the true American Ideal. How could he? Has he done more than one or two tours in the US even? And I’m sure Kate Hudson is a paragon of American History and libertarianism (if she could even define that).

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J3player
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:00am
Message to Glenn – Proverbs 14:7 – Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge.

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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:55pm
  whining about a rock band not liking him….really..who cares, I guess the world is not falling apart. and what was that about dude above me.
  
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Madison2012
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:00am
Glenn stick with Kalai. This band is not worth it. The lyrics fit OWS.

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batmanroxus
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:55am
Never heard of Muse… don’t care to.

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- Cesium
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:59pm
  @ Batmanroxus I didn’t know they let North Koreans access The Blaze
  
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- Angel_light
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 4:20pm
  Cesium- Was that necessary? I have never heard of Muse…so what.
  
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Fifth_Disciple
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:50am
I would encourage each of you to read Glenn’s words carefully. Please notice that he very eloquently made his point yet was able to refrain from belittling anyone’s opinion or point of view.

He was able to write well over a thousand characters without telling anyone to “shut up” or demeaning them. This is the kind of discourse that will gain you an audience with those who lean left.

The objective is to present a well reasoned argument for our philosophies and win others to our side. If you can’t resist the temptation to ridicule please step aside and let calmer heads prevail.

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- Cemoto78
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:01am
  Absolutely correct and so very well stated. You nailed it just like Glenn did.
  
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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:14am
  Shut up! :p
  
  Oh, and Semper Fi, Devil Dog! I’m curious to see where loyalties (yours and mine) will lie when the decision must be made to stand and fight. My greatest fear is having to take up arms against those that share my history. :/
  
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- Galts_Gulch
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:20am
  Fifth_Disciple, you are a blathering bafoo…. wait… Great point !
  Well said.
  Thanks.
  I’m going to send that to folks if you don’t mind.
  
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- TEA4Me
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:22am
  I agree with you regarding those who “lean” Left. But with regards to liberals, the best thing for them is to simply destroy them with the facts of life, which they simply choose to ignore. When I am done with them, I want the to be so thourghly defeated and frustrated, they just want to go running home to mommy – and usually they do. It is very gratifying. Speaking with an Independent who “leans” Left and a “dyed in the wool” liberal are two very different exercises…
  
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- KeelyinFL
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:27am
  Well put! Completely agree with your thoughts :)
  
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- Wango
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:36am
  5th DISHAPPLE . . . You have a very short memory.
  
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- wingedwolf
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:43am
  I am forced by the fact that I have good sense, even though I have a temper, to step aside and let calmer people state the case. And I thank you for being able to do so.
  
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- psychosocial1
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:30pm
  @tea4me
  Your rhetoric illustrates the fact that you don’t understand the point. You seek to “destroy” the liberals. Your way is the only way, right? Your freedoms are to be placed above everything else. Your ideals are the only ideals to strive for. What happens when your freedoms and ideals trample the freedoms and ideals of others? You are seeking exactly the same thing as any liberal. You want the government to guarantee your freedoms and ideals. I do not know who you are, but I am willing to make a generalization about your opinions. Religious tolerance? I’m sure that is reserved solely for the Christian faith. Marriage equality? Like Glenn, definitely not. For you, marriage follows the biblical definition. Never mind that marriage pre-dates biblical text. The right for a woman to choose? So long as she chooses to have the baby. Like Glenn, and so many others on these message boards, you claim to believe in personal freedom…..But that idea of freedom means that everyone has the “freedom” to do exactly what you would do.
  
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- RoadtoFREEDOM
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:36pm
  @PSYCHOSOCIAL1 – Your post applies precisely to the LEFT, not libertarians. With Obamacare, Catholic organizations now must provide insurance that provides abortions, everyone MUST get full coverage expensive health insurance or face a tax, and everyone must fund the government that now waives the work requirement in Welfare, and pay the salary of Obama and those who now don’t enforce our immigration laws and allow children of illegals to stay – when Congress never passed such a law. I could go on, of course, and describe the Income Tax and how it destroys lives, how the Fed destroys our currency by printing recklessly, and so on.
  
  You mention a woman’s right to choose… and there are some who believe aborting a fetus is murder… though abortion is legal in our country with some restrictions (but ever fewer it seems). And you call killing a fetus, a human baby, ‘the right to choose’. Does one have the right to end another’s life? Isn’t that murder? Yet you would have society dictate that murder of babies be sanctioned so that everyone has the right to feel the way YOU do about that topic.
  
  What you seem to fail to grasp is that freedom, as advocated by libertarians and conservatives comes with RESPONSIBILITY. You do not in my view have the right to ask society to absolve you of your responsibility and make me pay for it. By doing so, you are taking, by force, from me.
  
  The fact is that the left and right are incompatible and America has to choose one o
  
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- CWPrequired
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:02pm
  @fifth- I agree, but you can’t fix stupid.
  
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- psychosocial1
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:04pm
  @roadtofreedom
  I don’t disagree with some of your points. Government interference in religious matters is never a good thing. I would ask this of you: Should religion be involved in government? I don’t see how one can accept religion in government while advocating that government stay out of religion. It’s a bad mix and what the first amendment is truly about. The founders of this country knew European history and the ramifications of that mix. I also agree with your statement of personal responsibility. We should all act in a responsible manner, but humans are not infallible. Wouldn’t you agree that people have the freedom to make mistakes? I believe that mistakes are the best teaching tools available. I also believe that people should have an opportunity to correct for those mistakes. I do NOT advocate that the government should pay for those mistakes. That cost should be borne by the individual that made the mistake. I do disagree with your assumptions about me. I was simply employing “hot button” issues to illustrate the point that one individual’s belief system can infringe upon the belief system of another. Since you mentioned abortion specifically I will address that. Your comments demonstrate that abortion is outside of morally acceptable behavior. You are entitled to that position, and, as stated above, I wouldn’t expect you to have to pay for that service. However, you seem to seek government to deny another individual their right to choo
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 3:11pm
  JQUENTINEVERMANN
  I bet you’re that guy in the bar that just is looking to find a reason to punch somebody out.
  
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- SweetLiberties
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:39pm
  Yes, I have been trying to communicate over at HP (!) with those who are obviously voting for Obama, trying to understand their point of view and attempting to respectfully spread some truth where I can. I found the experience so far to be not so enlightening and pretty brutal and disheartening! :( I mean, I don’t presume to expect to change people’s minds, but sometimes if you can plant a little seed of truth, there is a chance for it to grow…hopefully…?
  
  (Loved reading this, Glenn, btw :)
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:07am
  At least he has a memory Wango…mail yourself a Unabomber special…you’ve bombed out here as leftist paid pundit.
  
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- BrunMan
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 4:35pm
  And it will work to gain audience with any side, any persuasion. Well said.
  
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666Sucks
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:50am
I stand behind Beck, but he can be a little hypocritical or naive, “Question with boldness the very existence of God…, but whatever you do don’t question Obama’s blatantly forged Birth Certificates! And now he will continue to fund a bunch of morons who would use their largess to support those who would eventually round he and his family up to be disposed of. It’s no longer “what would Jesus do?” It’s time for, “what would His Dad do?” Remember Sodom & Gammorah!

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- martyinhagerstown
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:04am
  Dear 666Sucks Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:50amI
  CONCERNING YOUR COMMENT ABOUT Beck…he can be a little hypocritical or naive, “Question with boldness the very existence of God…, but whatever you do don‘t question Obama’s blatantly forged Birth Certificates!
  
  I DON’T BELIEVE BECK EVER SAID don‘t question Obama’s blatantly forged Birth Certificates!
  
  You need to back that up with a source and then I’ll stand corrected.
  
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- KENTUCKIANAPATRIOT
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:34am
  Finally. An adult. “What you compromise to keep–you WILL lose.”
  
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- razhunter100
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:49am
  which year would you care to start with …?
  beck ran away from barry soetoro the whole time he was on fox.
  he was too busy counting the corn in soros’ crap…
  
  when he left fox , he continued to trash anyone who questioned
  the bc, the SS#’s etc etc .
  
  feel free to search fox archives or theblaze archves, all proof there.
  
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- wtm
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 1:09pm
  666 is a reference to a roman emperor (Caligula I think) it was a form of writing negative things about him, because if his name was used he would kill you. Example; 666 sucks, really says the emperor sucks. just a FYI
  
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- 666Sucks
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 5:56pm
  Never heard of the emperor theory, but for me 666 is the mark of he devil, 666sucks = evil sucks.
  
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kadster01
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:47am
These days it is not about principle anymore. It is not about right or wrong. It is about labels. If you say “conservative” or “liberal”, those are buzzwords that automatically credit, or discredit, anything else you might say. If a conservative reads a story from CNN, “Well God knows, it has to be biased!” If a liberal reads a story from Fox News or TheBlaze…”Obviously written my right-wing nut jobs!” The same goes for the labels “Tea Party” or “OWS.” No one can hold his/her knees still long enough anymore to not have a gut reaction to labels and automatically align with like-minded people, like sports fans high-fiving each other. No one seems to be capable of objective thought.

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- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:01am
  @KAD…While that is 100% true about liberals these days (I know, there goes that buzzword) the problem for conservatives is totally different. We have opened our eyes to the nonstop 24/7 blatant LIES and ignorance of EVERY liberal…it is not that we, as conservatives, cannot FIND common ground, it’s simply that there ISN’T ANY common ground to find…either you want freedom or you welcome tyranny. There is no longer a middle ground in the battle for the soul of America
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:15am
  @Used.
  You are correct.And it seems to be proven, to me at least every few months by a high school “friend” who like to snipe political descussions among friends on facebook.Hed always has the same taliking points, no matter the subject,and when he gets hammered with facts, he name calls and runs,typical of those on the left.No matter how hard a conservative tries,it is imbossible to get the parrots on the left to see the truth…….
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:20am
  And it’s not likely to get any better anytime soon.
  
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- kadster01
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:26am
  And, as Pat Buchanan pointed out in “Suicide of a Superpower,” it is that inability among Americans to even agree on fundamentals of right and wrong that will be her undoing. Politics has become Reality TV. Political Parties are like Super Bowl teams. Team alliance amounts to no more than the color of the jersey, and a basic understanding of the game is not necessary or required. If you’ve never seen “Idiocracy,” I recommend it. We are there.
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:35pm
  I agree with Jesse Ventura on abolishing Party: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DChH6jpw1g
  
  We need people to start researching candidates instead of going into the voting booth and pulling the lever for D or R without knowing who they are voting for.
  
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- psychosocial1
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:51pm
  @kadster01
  Well stated. Labels only serve to illustrate differences. Labels create an atmosphere whereby the characteristics of one individual can be applied to all in a group of like-minded individuals. In that manner, one racist sign at a Tea Party rally means the entire group is racist. One lawbreaker at an OWS event makes the entire group anarchist lawbreakers. Labels also make it easier to create victims. That is why we all remember Rodney King but fewer remember Reginald Denny.
  
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- neubienose
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:52pm
  No one seems to be capable of objective thought
  
  you mean here of course.
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:41pm
  By and large the only place where you see some effort at being objective comes only from conservative blogs/sites etc….leftist outlets are nothing but giant echo chambers.
  
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- psychosocial1
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:45am
  @puddle duck
  Do you read the message boards here? Echo chamber exists here the same as at HuffPo or any other liberal site. I am convinced that one will not be able to have an objective, constructive conversation on a message board due to the very nature of the medium. Anonymous posters shouting vitriolic, ad hominem attacks at one another. Individuals posting on The Blaze message boards are generally conservative and generally extremely intolerant of anything resembling liberal opinion. You don’t have to look too hard to see that. The converse is also true for message boards found on liberal sites.
  
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BetterInformed
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:46am
I’ll stick with Ted Nugent.

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- voodoolife
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:13am
  Amen to that!
  
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- The Gooch
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:07am
  I don’t know crap about Muse and I’m a big Nugent fan… but what hit song by Ted could possibly be used to motivate folks politically? Ted’s music (except for MAYBE Dog Eat Dog) is about as apolitical and hedonistic as you’re gonna find compared to his contemporaries when he was the number one live act in the world.
  Yank Me, Crank Me is really about the voting process? Boy, did I misinterpret those lyrics.
  Ted’s music is generally about stupid, good fun. Don’t go ruining it by dragging it into this nonsense.
  
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- gwm
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:58pm
  Ted for president :)
  
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RANGER1965
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:42am
It’s a simple choice for this muscian.

Stay principled, keep your songs, and perhaps share them with a few friends. These principles and your music can keep you warm at night when they turn off the heat because you have no money. Perhaps they can feed your empty belly.

or…

You can sell and share your music with the world. If you’re any good, and you’re lucky, you might become famous, and wealthy. The downside is that people you don’t like might listen too, and even like your music…OH MY!!! HOW TERRIBLE!!

This has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read.

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- ambrosia
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:23am
  Bellamy is too big for his bombastic britches.
  
  He’s trying to be all wise & philosophical about his “art”
  TRULY-
  NO one with a creative talent, giving heart, pure soul & enlightened spirit
  would allow him or herself
  to judge what type of person
  should or qualifies to be receptive of their work.
  
  Can you imagine Da Vinci or Mozart
  getting into a ******* contest about what kind of person
  & with what particular beliefs,
  should be deemed “suitable” to view or listen to their creative works ?
  They would be laughing hysterically, at Bellamy’s “Deep” analysis !
  
  That is what separates, not only GREAT artists
  but great people from dime store, holier-than-whoodle punks,
  who think the world REALLY cares about their creative angst.
  
  If Bellamy is so miserable
  because the “unexpected” are spending THEIR money to buy his crap,
  then maybe he should forego the next big record deal
  & stick to selling his own pressed CD’s
  out of the trunk of his Porsche
  or whatever vehicle,
  his “fans” helped him to obtain.
  
  What a light-headed loser,
  grow up & get wise, little guy,
  there are plenty of giving, grateful artists in the world-
  no one would miss you or your creative genius,
  if you weren’t around-
  benefiting from the support of a whole lot of different people,
  politics aside.
  
  In other words, get OVER yourself !
  
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- Dorugremon
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 6:16pm
  We saw the same nonsense four years ago when Nancy Wilson complained that the Republicans played Heart’s song _Barracuda_ at the convention. If it were me, I’d be happy that they were giving publicity to a 30 y/o song, thereby bringing attention to a whole new group of listeners. Some of whom just might be interested in hearing what else the group produced.
  
  They are idiots for turning away potential customers.
  
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LaBelle
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:42am
I will tell you that people who are born and raised in a socialist society are 100% brainwashed into believing that socialism is the ONLY way. I know some Canadians who really believe that they have the best society, even after they tell me about everything that is opposite of freedom going on up there, THEY just do not see it because they have lived in it for far too long.

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- TheePolitinator
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:51am
  And that’s the issue we face, Americans don’t see where Marxism leads because they can’t recognize it.
  
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- YAHUSHUAHRULES
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:44am
  sorry TheePolitinator spelled your name wrong…
  still check out and share it. This IS the AGENDA:
  AGENDA: GRINDING AMERICA DOWN. get it. watch it. share it the hour is late and darkness closing in from all sides…
  so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dkKoJ3kT8
  
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- Fizz
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:27pm
  Then why do they envy America..? Hypocrites..
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:52am
  Most leftist Canadians do not envy America…they hate it and for the life of me I cannot understand why they do. It’s nuts. For the record I love the USA and defend it every chance I get.
  
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ChrisDiamond
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:42am
I’m wondering if, perhaps, Muse and it’s members are libertarian socialists, or anarcho-syndicalists…

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welovetheUSA
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:39am
Music does have a impact on each generation…my boys listen to that awful rap music..I ask them why would they take pleasure in listening to filthy..nasty..words in the music..they say..oh we donot care about the words? I give up…The military uses the nasty..angery rap music in training..rap music is a black thing..on how they see the world..to me its disgusting and not music at all. I can only hope it will change with the next generation.

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- TheePolitinator
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:58am
  I have been a musician my whole life, I understand the impact it has. I also seen the tide turn the last 3 decades into a politically driven muse. TV sitcoms, movies, music have all been taken over by an agenda to break down moral fabric in society, rob our youth of responsibility and accountability. It sickening and absurd.
  
  To prove my point look at the success of shows like American Idol and X-factor etc. Real people not pre judged by an agenda, similar to the pre 1980′s ere when looks didn’t out weigh talent. In the late 80′s the video killed the radio star. Nowadays if you’re hot, you’re a star. It’s all garbage. We need music to change society for the better, not the worse.
  
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- YAHUSHUAHRULES
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:41am
  For THEEPOLINATOR yes there is an agenda to raise a generation so dumb they can’t govern themselves, they can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state – A complicit media, captured Hollywood and forcing normalization of homosexuality and all manner of perversion, war against Judeo/Christian values, pledging allegiance to the earth rather then the flag of the US and the Republic for which it stands, environmentalism a tool of totalitarianism, a corrupt, amoral, godless generation and its not their children – for the most part they abort theirs – its co-oped indoctrinated “our” children and much more
  AGENDA: GRINDING AMERICA DOWN. get it. watch it. share it the hour is late and darkness closing in from all sides…
  so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dkKoJ3kT8
  
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dadadadio
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:38am
Gonna do my part – I’m going to continue to not buy music from this group.

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D-Fence
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:35am
Ah to be young.

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mike_trivisonno
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:33am
Poetry and music are integral to the functioning of the human mind. In ancient Greece the so-called “wandering poet” was the sole repository of history and legend. They moved with purpose from town to town to put history and legend to music and dance. This was how information was transmitted. This is how culture was preserved. Amphitheaters would fill with people just as they do in our times. And people would learn and be influenced by the concerts.

Musicians and artists of today serve the same purpose. They rarely recognize it as such and will often even deny they have any influence over the minds they touch. The level to which the industry denies they influence culture is in proportion to their actual influence.

But we are not supposed to know that music is a method of learning which bypasses the conscious mind. If we knew the secret, the spell would be broken and music would not be nearly as effective in changing the behavior of people.

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toomuchgovt
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:31am
I am also a little tired of contributing to musicians and actors who give money to destroy our country. I’m glad I know this guy views. I decided I will do a buy in on movies, books, music, supplies and food who support God, the Constitution and our Troops.

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- mike_trivisonno
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:20am
  Most musicians are not even conscious of what they are doing or in what ways they influence and teach those for which they perform. They are but tools of those who do know…the producers and the agents, the record companies and promoters. The musicians of today are but a shadow of their former glory. No longer the repositories of legend and history, they are now but dancing monkeys grinding an out-of-tune organ for the masters they do not even see.
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:57pm
  I think what you are saying dovetails nicely with what THEEPolinator expressed in his assement of the industry today vs 30+ years ago. I have been into music since I began to walk and talk and the changes over the past 5 decades mirror the decline of freedom, the encroachment of govt into our lives such that as the interferance into those lives increases, social norms being debased , the family destroyed the popular genres today reflect all manner of grotesque imagery, violence, demeaning sexist rhetoric that is a polar opposite of the PC movement that pretends these changes are not manifesting themselves on the streets. Reality paints a different picture.
  
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bluntforce
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:31am
I’ve never heard of this guy or his band, but this is what happens when a conservative publicly supports modern music. The same crap happened with Bruce Springsteen and Ronald Reagan. They whine and moan to their peers about “the man” but then they run right out and cash those royalty checks. Screw them, I wouldn’t waste the time to try and “reach out” to one of these adult children.

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- bplumb23
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:47am
  This happens every election on both sides. It’s really not that big of a deal. I think Glenn just gets bored sometimes. He has so many ideas and emotions going on that sometimes he vents out things that aren’t as directed and helpful as others.
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 12:04am
  It would be interesting to ask musicians who blindly support far left ideologies if they could have produced and then sold what made them household names in a ntion such as the old Soviet Union or Red China ? ***** Riot is finding out that even in today’s Russia that thier native soil hasn’t quite thrown off the yoke of tyrany just yet (nor will it likely do so as long as Soviet era KGB men run the nation).
  
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bricko
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:28am
F*** the musician. Once they record the music and put it in the marketplace and the appropriate fees are paid to ASCAP or whatever agency they use….you can burn it, play it or crap on it…you bought it for whatever purpose. Tell them to *******.

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marvlus
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:13am
So Muse is despising the type of government that allows them to flourish? Amazingly short-sighted and naive.

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- betsyyoung
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:31am
  So typical of the young, naive and stupid!
  
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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:39am
  Marvlus,
  
  How does government allow Muse (or any other artist, industry, business etc) to shine? I thought it had a little something to do with the talent, product and other things like that.
  
  Typical state-worshipper’s response in 3…….2…….1……
  
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- marvlus
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:56am
  ChrisDiamond, Perhaps I wasn’t clear. Our capitalistic, free-enterprise form of government allows them to make music of free-will, make money (which I’m sure they are doing), and enjoy the freedoms that they enjoy. Sure they have talent – but to capitalize on it is something we all enjoy as Americans, at least for the time being.
  
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- The Gooch
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 12:01pm
  Angst encourages creativity?
  
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- Puddle Duck
  Posted on October 3, 2012 at 1:23am
  Equally puzzling is the mere fact that this man is at odds with his nations reality, that being that the current UK Gov’t is the apitome of “big gov’t” cradle to grave intrusion. The UK is a veritable fiscal basket case only slightly better off than it’s EU cousins, many of which are on the verge of complete financial collapse because of entrenched leftist policy and habitual Gov’t mismanagement/corruption.
  
  If anything someone of his leanings should be praising conservative values not disparaging them.
  
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DogTags
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:05am
I disagree with one thing Beck said. Man, left alone, is not basically good. The heart is deceitful above all and desparately wicked. Who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9. Left to themselves people are wicked. Our Founders believed that. James Madison stated in Federalist 51 “If men were angels, no government would be necessary.”

Men aren’t angels and require government. But, the best government is when men can govern themselves. Our Founders understood that the only way for a people to be free to govern themselves is if a religious faith inculcates an inner moral restraint.

Edmund Burke wisely said “Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put chains upon their own appetites; in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity; in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption; in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be of it without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate habits cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

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- DogTags
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:18am
  I have always said:
  
  “Those who will not be governed by an internal moral restraint will be ruled by an external one.” -Christopher S. Brownwell
  
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- SLAPTHELEFT
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:28am
  Screw muse.mthere are plenty of country artists who would be elated to have their music Played by us god fearin, clinging to our freedom and guns people.
  
  Muse sucks anyway.
  
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- ChrisDiamond
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:35am
  @DogTags
  
  I think our founders were some of the brightest people who ever lived. That being said, Madison & company were looking to establish a new gov when, arguably, many Americans would’ve been content to shake off gov altogether. My thesis is supported by the Articles of Confederation (a much ‘looser’ form of centralized government), and arguments between federalists & anti-federalists (Hamilton & Jefferson) about the role the central gov ought to play. The Constitution showed acquiescence on both sides to arguments made, the establishment of a much stronger Federal government, with a ‘bone’ thrown to the freedom lovers in the Bill of Rights.
  
  IMO, Madison’s statement gives greater support to the notion that governments should NOT exist because what you create with a government is a centralized, all-powerful entity with a monopoly on the initiation of force. This creates the perfect place for sociopaths and those with other desires to rule over people (little tyrants) to gravitate toward, or the creeping cancer of democracy where the individual has rights ignored, diminished or eliminated by the tyranny of the majority.
  
  Lysander Spooner observed, “Whether the Constitution be one thing or another, this much is true: it has either authorized such a government as we have, or has been powerless to prevent it.”
  
  Man is indeed able to rule himself. You should research anarchic societies in Iceland/Ireland/Scotland. The thrived for almost 800 years.
  
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- hillbillyinny
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:35am
  @dogtags
  
  As I understand it, Glenn’s concept of people being “born good” is an LDS concept. They don’t believe in “original sin,” therefore they believe you start with an empty clear state with good in your heart, rather than the Biblical that all humans are “born IN sin” (not from a sinful act!), and that redemption is necessary for all.
  
  I believe that without God’s Spirit in your heart through the death and resurrection of Jesus, you cannot be good, as all humanity is sinful and self-centered without conscious thought and the aid of the Holy Spirit. Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross pays for the sin of all humanity for all time (“. . . without the shedding of blood, forgiveness cannot occur. . .”), but we don’t just “magically” become good when we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, it is still up to us to live fully in communion with God, again impossible without the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
  
  Our theologies are very different. . . But are goals are in line with each other. . .
  
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- DogTags
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:45pm
  @ChrisDiamond, I am not sure what your point is. Our Founders and the sentiments of the day were not to throw off government entirely. They understood government was necessary. They also understood that angels do not govern men. You must first erect a government that is sufficient enough to govern men and yet establish a system of government that could be restrained. I wouldn’t say Hamilton wasn’t an anti-federalist as much as he was a closet monarchist. I do agree that some of the fears of the anti-federalists, like Patrick Henry, have come true. They foresaw the monster of a centralized federal government using provisions of the Constitution (like the Commerce Clause) to subject men to its whims. But, that is not becasue the system of our federal republic or its Constitution are inept. Federal encroachment on our liberties is more from a people in moral decline, who, because of a rejection of the sovereignty of God, would rather have someone else be forced to take care of them than to be industrious themselves.
  
  @HillBillyInny, I agree with you that we can unite with a Mormon on public policy even though their theology is wrong. Mormonism is not Christianity, but at least is produces quiet, peaceful citizens.
  
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- DogTags
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 2:49pm
  @ChrisDiamond, were you placing Hamilton, one of the others of the Federalist essays, in the anti-federalist camp? Or were you listing a federalist and an anti-federalist in your parentheses?
  
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SanDiegoDave
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:00am
It seems a funny notion that musicians think they can pick the people who play their music…

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- bplumb23
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:10am
  They can when it is used commercially or politically. It’s an intellectual property right. And that should be respected as well. It wasn’t played at home.
  I may disagree with that artist, but I think they have a right to how their music is used and what connotations it attaches to them, not by their choice.
  
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- buffytoo
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:51am
  Well..they don’t have a choice according to IP law. They have a right to be compensated for use of their music but they don’t have a choice as to who listens to or plays their music. Anyone who asserts differently from that is ignorant of the law.
  
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IAMMADDOG
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:47am
If musicians do not want their music being played by certain people over others then they ought NOT record the music in the first place.

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- johnjamison
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:55am
  Musicians should put labels on the music that states we are pro-liberal and do not want conservative,moderates or republicans purchasing or listening any of our music. If Muse wants to act that way then return all the CAPITAL BACK TO THE CAPITALIST THAT BROUGHT YOUR CRAPPY MUSIC.
  I’LD RATHER LISTEN TO A BAND LIKE PANTERA WHO WANTS EVERY CREED AND EVERY COLOR TO GIVE COME TOGETHER.
  
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- IAMMADDOG
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 11:55am
  I agree!!
  
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The Giver
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:42am
I will not buy any of their songs anymore. You can be big about it Glenn, but I’m tired of contributing to the success of tyranny.

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- betsyyoung
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:28am
  I’m with ya Giver! The preposterous idea that this dude in this band can delegate who …….. Oh never mind it just ticks me off ! The arrogance is resounding!
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 9:54am
  Personally I like Muse……anti-big gov. He describes himself as a left leaning libertarian. I do believe that he is misinformed about what’s going on here in America and should probably do some more research.
  
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NatTurner
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:35am
If he uses your music again, sue him blind.

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- The Giver
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:43am
  Are you speaking to Muse?
  
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- TheePolitinator
  Posted on October 2, 2012 at 10:00am
  Too bad he can’t,
  
  Dumb ass
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on October 2, 2012 at 8:28am
xoxoxo

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