Cenk Uygur of Current TV's "The Young Turks" got into a heated discussion with Joseph Backholm, chair of Preserve Marriage Washington, a group working to sustain traditional marriage in Washington State. During an uncomfortable interview, Backholm attempted to explain his stance, while Uygur dismissed it as a hateful initiative against gays and lesbians.
The first portion of the segment focused on a back-and-forth between the two parties, with Backholm asking the host to "think logically" and with Uygar slamming the activist's ideals as "crazy."
As the conversation progressed, the host began railing on about faith and the Bible and its role in the discussion. Uygar went on to claim that Backholm's ideals are based on a false understanding of the Bible, as he seemed to say that the holy book doesn't crack down on gay marriage in the same respect that the activist and his group do.
"But you don't want them to be recognized as a marriage, because you've got a problem with gay individuals becoming a married couple. That's literally what your problem is, right? Joseph, can we get real about this?," Uygar said. "It's because of the Bible, right? Because the Bible always says that that's been the case. But you know you're wrong about that too, right? I mean, you know that that's not what the Bible says, right?"
"It's because I do not believe it is a marriage," Backholm countered.
Watch the uncomfortable dialogue, below: