An 88-year-old Holocaust survivor is calling on "The View" to have a broad discussion about the Holocaust after co-host Whoopi Goldberg insisted that the horrific atrocity was "not about race."
What's the background on this?
During Monday's broadcast of the hit ABC show, Goldberg said that the Holocaust wasn't about race but about "man's inhumanity to man" and that it took place between "two white groups of people."
"No," she insisted. "It's not about race. ... The minute you turn it into race, it goes down this alley. Let's talk about it for what it is. It's how people treat each other. It's a problem. It doesn't matter if you're black or white, 'cause black, white, Jews ... everybody eats each other."
Goldberg faced mountains of criticism following the remarks, for which she eventually apologized.
"On today's show, I said the Holocaust 'is not about race, but about man's inhumanity to man,' I should have said it is about both," she wrote on Twitter. "As Jonathan Greenblatt from the Anti-Defamation League shared, 'The Holocaust was about the Nazi's systematic annihilation of the Jewish people — who they deemed to be an inferior race.' I stand corrected."
"The Jewish people around the world have always had my support and that will never waiver [sic]. I'm sorry for the hurt I have caused," she added.
She later appeared on "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," however, in a segment that was filmed prior to her apology, and appeared to double down on her comments.
"It upset a lot of people, which was never, ever, ever, ever my intention," Goldberg said, and added, "I feel, being black, when we talk about race, it's a very different thing to me. So I said that I felt that the Holocaust wasn't about race. And people got very, very, very angry and still are angry. I mean, I'm getting ... mail from folks and very real anger. 'Cause people feel very differently. But I thought it was a salient discussion because as a black person I think of race as being something that I can see. So I see you, and I know what race you are."
She added that she now understands.
"I felt differently. I respect everything everyone is saying to me. ... I don't wanna fake apologize. ... I was ... very upset that people ... misunderstood what I was saying," she continued. "And so because of it, they're saying that I'm anti-Semitic, and that I'm denying the Holocaust, and all these other things which would ... never occur to me ... I thought we were having a discussion about race, which everyone I think is having."
Goldberg added that she was simply saying that you couldn't use the Holocaust as an example of racism.
"When you talk about being a racist, I was saying you can't call [the Holocaust] racism. This was evil," she insisted. "This wasn't based on the skin. You couldn't tell who was Jewish. [The Nazis] had to delve deeply to figure it out."
She added that she's also learned her lesson and doesn't want to talk about it any more.
"I said this wasn't racial. This was about white on white. And everybody said, 'No, no, no, it was racial,' and so that's what this all came from," she complained. "So once again: Don't write me any more, I know how you feel, OK? I already know. I get it. And I'm going to take your word for it and never bring it up again."
What are the details?
Lucy Lipiner, the 88-year-old author of "Long Journey Home: A Young Girl's Memoir of Surviving the Holocaust," took Goldberg to task over the remarks and expressed the desire to speak her mind on "The View" for the world to hear.
Lipiner's story is famous: After having to flee from Poland with her family when she was just 6 years old, she lost all of her loved ones and ended up in Siberia and Tajikistan before eventually making it to America.
She took to Twitter following Goldberg's remarks, where she wrote, "Hi @TheView, I am a Holocaust survivor in NYC. I might be 88-years-old but I have the energy to come on your show and talk to @WhoopiGoldberg and all the girls about the Holocaust."
"I think we can have a meaningful conversation together and heal wounds," she concluded. "DM me!"