Carl Lentz, pastor at Hillsong Church NYC, is backtracking on comments concerning abortion that he made in 2017 on "The View."
What's a brief history?
Previously, Lentz refused to call abortion by its name: sin. "God's the judge," Lentz told "The View" co-host Joy Behar after she asked him if he believed abortion is a sin.
Lentz responded, "People have to live to their own convictions, and I think if I have to tell you … that's such a broad question to me."
Behar insisted on a straight answer. "So it's not an open-and-shut case with you?" she asked.
Lentz responded, "Some people would say it is. I think, to me, I'm trying to teach people who Jesus is first, find out their story before I start picking and choosing what I think is sin in your life, I'd like to know your name."
What's he saying now?
Lentz uploaded an Instagram post in which he called abortion "shameful" and "demonic" on response to New York's passage of a brutal abortion law that allows abortions after 24 weeks' gestation. You can read more about the new law here.
Lentz, who has a home in New York, expressed his heartbreak over the law.
He wrote, "I'm saddened and angry that we are now a state that has made it legal to have an abortion even into the last day of a pregnancy."
"I spent hours talking to lawyers and people who hold opposing views on this issue," he added. "Although it is layered and there is language in it that some are claiming will protect mothers in peril, the only way I can describe where we are and where this is all headed ... is evil, shameful and demonic."
"Some," he continued, "have said this is strictly a 'women's rights issue.' [I] don't disagree. We simply believe that WOMEN IN THE WOMB deserve the right to life, deserve the right to breath."
In his Instagram post, Lentz went on to point readers to Psalm 139. A portion of Psalm 139 says:
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
"Despite this dark day," he concluded, "our future is STILL bright because we know where our help comes from."