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Actor Jonathan Van Ness burst into tears while complaining about boys not being able to compete in girls' sports, while calling the idea of fairness in women's sports "fictitious."
Van Ness spoke to actor Dax Shepard on his podcast “Armchair Expert,” where the two clashed over Shepard presenting simple counter-arguments for and against transgender ideological opinions. The actors also discussed whether the New York Times is a left-wing paper, to which Van Ness said it is not because it has questioned sex changes and hormones for children, making it "anti-trans."
Shepard insisted that the paper simply "challenged" and "asked" questions about the issue.
“Some people are very uncomfortable about teenagers transitioning,” Shepard said, according to the New York Post. “How do we know that the person’s not gonna change their mind? Then there’s another counter-argument. If they kill themselves, then that’s really f**king permanent. … To even question it makes you an enemy. I don’t think that’s the way forward.”
“I feel like I’m talking to my dad,” Van Ness complained, before he shifted to his "legitimate concerns" about transgender athletes. He noted that he found it "disappointing" to know how many people "think they’re really fighting” for women by not allowing boys to play in girls' sports.
Van Ness, 36, took the position that it shouldn't matter if boys compete against girls because "99% of kids who want to play sports aren't trying to go to the Olympics."
The actor, who uses they/he/she pronouns, then began audibly crying as he declared the idea of fairness for women in sports to be a fictional one.
"I could just like cry because I'm like so tired of having to like fight for little kids because they just want to be included. I wish that people were as passionate about little kids being able to like be included or grow up as they were about fictitious women's fairness in sports," he cried. "I am very tired."
Shepard, who also declared that it is “insane” to believe that President Biden is the country’s “best option," was then subjected to a workaround insult from Van Ness, who accused him of "trans misogyny."
“I’m a nonbinary f**king trans person. When I talk to my dad or people who say similar things, it’s hard to be cool through that,” he decried. “I’m not calling you a transphobe. You can not be transphobic and still have thoughts that espouse trans misogyny and espouse transphobic ideologies or beliefs and not be transphobic.”
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