Hillsong Pastor Carl Lentz told HBO's "Vice News" that he backs the biblical understanding of marriage being between only one man and one woman.
What did he say?
In the video, when asked about his thoughts on marriage equality, Lentz seemingly tried to skirt the question.
In response to the interviewer's question, the pastor replied, "I think we have a PR problem. Marriage equality, it's a non-issue, because the laws of the land in New York City [are that] gay people can get married."
When pressed further about his own personal thoughts on marriage equality, Lentz answered, "My opinion is secondary to what we believe the Bible's opinion is. So Hillsong Church, traditionally, for 30 years, we would say the Bible is really clear that marriage is between a man and a woman. And I believe the Bible says what it says, and I interpret it exactly as the Bible says."
Lentz then added that the church "gets killed from both sides."
"The Christian right thinks we're too open; the super left thinks we're not loud enough in our affirmation," he elaborated.
Lentz recently came under fire for not overtly decrying abortion as sin.
In an appearance on "The View" promoting his latest book, "Own the Moment," he was asked directly whether or not he thought abortion is sin.
"Um, that’s the kind of conversation we would have finding out your story, where you’re from, what you believe," he responded.
"God’s the judge," he added. "People have to live to their own convictions, and I think if I have to tell you … that’s such a broad question to me."
Behar interrupted a second time and said, “So it’s not an open-and-shut case with you.”
“Some people would say it is,” Lentz responded. “I think, to me, I’m trying to teach people who Jesus is first, find out their story before I start picking and choosing what I think is sin in your life, I’d like to know your name.”